Hello and welcome to the spiked podcast I'm Fraser Myers and with me this week we have

Spikes editor Tom Slater hello very exciting news and spiked columnist Ella

Wielen. Hi coming up on the show, the Labour Party, Sarah Everard and White Privilege.

So the Labour Conference has come to an end.

Kia Starmer has set out his pitch to the nation.

Tom, you suggested earlier this week that Labour needed to be put out of its misery. What made you say that?

Well it was just so dreadful wasn't it. I mean when your the main takeaways from

your speech that there was a lot of hecklers and it went on a bit too long and there was a weird digression about robots.

It definitely didn't go particularly well, did it. And, you know, this isn't just about the contents of the speech which typically

for Kiea Starmer was so incredibly mind-numbing is to be difficult to work out what he was saying at various different times.

But even the kind of prospect of all of the heckling, the obvious kind of agro that you saw in the conference the conference hall but also been in the run up

to this big speech itself you're just kind of reminded of what a tedious sort of

bourgeois spat the Labour Party is at the moment. Now for all the people

involved you know there's issues that people care about party democracy fair enough

questions of a minimum wage questions of you know stymers honesty really in relation to the selectorate and

him signing up to basically being continuity Corbyn on a policy level and not

matching up to that in relation to nationalization or any other kinds of issues.

All that I completely understand, but this just feels like a completely pointless spectacle

in relation to the rest of the nation and particularly in relation to the voters this

party was set up to represent. You know it's an old

cliche that the Labour Party is supposed to be this coalition of Hartley-Paul and

Hampstead, you know, the kind of working-class in the former Red Wall but also the kind of liberal left intelligents it and all the

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