you standing up on the stage and he concluded by saying we kind of are the chosen ones we are the ones

that create things we're like artists we're inventors we're entrepreneurs we're true entrepreneurs

and then he said i mean we're not doctors and lawyers that's rex elliott renowned trial

attorney and co-founder of Cooper Elliott.

And a lot of people would say, maybe I'm in the wrong place.

Because I was the only lawyer in that room, I knew right then and there I was in the right place.

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth within our earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs.

In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond

to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity,

challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer. I sat down with Rex

Elliott to discuss how to reframe adversity as an opportunity to grow, how to leverage the media

in high-profile cases, and why the most valuable lessons often come not from our wins, but from our losses.

Local TV stations in the courtroom.

I sat there as soon as I heard the first jury verdict form was a defense verdict.

I knew that every single one after that was going to be.

It took the judge an hour and a half with the cameras rolling and me sitting there with my clients

to read off every single defense

...