Good day, Thomas Jefferson.

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to this program.

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We had a number of interesting conversations during the course of the conversation about

Jefferson and Edward Curtis, which I just find fascinating.

Now, that's, I think, the theme is the West that Jefferson wished he could have seen and

heard.

He never traveled west.

He sent protegees west.

They brought back extraordinary documents, but it was all the written word and a handful

of illustrations.

If he had been able to see the photographs of Edward S. Curtis, I think Jefferson would

have felt that it was one of the supreme moments of his life because, as you know, David,

a lot of people have photographed Native Americans.

It's a pretty distinguished area and recorded their songs, too, and done ethnography and

illustration and painting.

But Curtis got through the surface and really, you feel as if you're there.

You feel as if it's more than an image of a face.

What's striking about it is how he got what Peter Roosevelt and his forward to the North

American didn't call the inner life that he somehow got in.

And that's not something that's automatically granted as it isn't with any people.

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