Hello, whinnebers. My name is Jesse Meekham and this is podcast number 145 for you need a budget

to where we teach you four rules to help you stop living paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt,

and save more money. And we seem to talk about money all the time. Money, money, money.

It's everywhere. Whole TV shows dedicated to it, tons of books including mine, all dedicated to money, my whole business,

dedicated to helping you manage your money better.

But in the end, what are we really talking about one of my favorite

favorite personal finance books of all time is by Joe Dominguez who I believe is

now passed away and it is called your money or your life. The book does a great job of

changing how we view money and starting to see money as a representation of our time.

So if you look at money that you've earned

and then you consider all the time you spend earning it,

you start to see that your money is your life. It is. it is just

what you're spending your life doing.

So time is the true currency and money is just a representation of it.

That struck a court with me and it helped me realize that I didn't always have to be seeking more money,

that sometimes we can optimize to have more time pursuing a hobby that we love or spending time with family or just relaxing and

relearning how to enjoy a little bit of leisure. So money at the end of the day

isn't really what you focus on. What you focus on is the time you spend, the relationships you enjoy.

And I think as we focus on those relationships, on growing, on learning, you find out that a lot of the things that we consume don't really bring

us any closer to finding happiness and finding joy.

If we have a little bit of autonomy,

if we have something we're passionate about,

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