All right. Here we go. Hello Shannon. What's happening? I'm doing well. How are you being here? Appreciate it. This is an incredible opportunity. I'm glad you you're interested in the subject of American Indian history and I'm glad to be here to talk about it. Yeah, I'm glad you were willing to come here.

Yeah, I became fascinated when I, well, I've always been sort of peripherally interested but never really delved into it until I read

Empire of the Summer Moon.

And then, you know, have you read that? S. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G.'s book about the Comanches

and about the Texas Rangers.

And it's such a crazy story that I just became obsessed.

And then I read Son of the Morning Star, and then I read, Son of the Morning Star,

and then I read Black Elk.

The Black Elk one was particularly fascinating to me

because it details life before they killed Custer to living on reservations to the desperation.

Watch it before we get started. Tell people who you are and what you do.

So my name is Shannon

O'Lachlan. I'm citizen of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. I've been a

practicing attorney since about 2001 and I'm currently the executive director and attorney for the

Association on American Indian Affairs. We're the oldest nonprofit serving

Indian country we've been around since 1922.

All right and we should tell people if you ever listen to this in the future.

This is all going on right now when the United States is going through one of the

one of the craziest times ever in terms of dealing with a virus.

We're on sort of on lockdown.

All gyms are closed, all comedy shows are closed all

concerts are closed clubs bars everything's closed and some places are

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