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It's Complicated

144 | Trump INDICTMENTS Crumble as WATCH LIST Gets EXPOSED | It’s Complicated

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Leticia James has been indicted - the latest target in Trump’s use of the Justice Department against his adversaries. Asha and Renato break down the indictment and what it means for anyone who dares to take Trump on. Then, a look at NSPM-7, Trump’s sweeping memo so vaguely written it could label almost anyone - protester, journalist, or donor - as a “domestic terrorist.” Tune in! Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.socialFollow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.socialFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Cruise with us! https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1Legal AF Substack: https://substack.com/@legalafFollow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.socialFollow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.socialSubscribe to the Legal AF by MeidasTouch podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:30.8

So, Renato, is Letitia James actually in danger of being convicted of a felony?

0:36.9

Ah, it's complicated.

0:42.2

I'm Renata Marietti. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.

0:49.5

And I'm Asha Rangappa. I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former FBI special agent,

0:56.3

and I'm the author of the Substack, the Freedom Academy. And we're here to help you understand topics

1:01.5

that can't be boiled down into a soundbite or a skeet. Well, Asha, I mean, we have,

1:18.2

say, another week, another highly questionable weaponized indictment to discuss.

1:29.5

And, you know, this one against Letitia James, who, of course, led the office that brought us a very significant civil matter against the Trump organization.

1:38.1

Yes, ironically, for defrauding banks and insurance companies, right?

1:47.7

And in particular, for inflating the value or deflating the value, I guess, depending on who he was communicating with in order to obtain potentially favorable loan terms or lower premiums, etc., which resulted in

1:55.6

a pretty, both finding of liability and then a hefty penalty, which was tossed out by the New York

2:06.4

Appellate Courts.

2:07.7

Right.

2:08.4

Now, of course, that was a civil case, but it was a case involving many tens of millions,

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