144 - Pepper Anne and Me

The Jeff Macolino Podcast

Jeff Macolino

Comedy

5 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2023

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Pepper is the author of "The Notorious Texas Swindler" which tells the story of The Grayson County Five - a group of 5 Texas prisoners who escaped and left a trail of chaos in their wake back in 2001. The book highlights the group's mastermind Bob Leach, who also happens to be a cousin of Pepper's. We chat about the book, some issues she encountered while writing it, the escape and actions of the Grayson County Five and much more!

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0:00.0	Welcome, this is an awesome podcast to the Jeff, there's a lot of whiskey Jeff Macalino,
0:15.3	Jeff Macalino, Macalino, Macalino, podcast, all right, let's rock and rule, I'm going
0:28.2	to make this as quick as I can because this old brain has to memorize a movie script. Oh,
0:34.5	when I was a kid, I was so much better at memorizing lines when I had a play or something.
0:41.4	Now I'm 36 and my brain is mush and by the way, this is even after a decently long scintive
0:47.6	not drinking alcohol. So the memory is just not what it used to be, but I'll get the
0:54.3	lines down. Welcome to a great episode and it's so great. Make sure you go and vote this
1:03.2	podcast for Best of the Bay 2023. Thank you very much, links below. This episode is with this
1:12.9	one is really interesting and it for many reasons. I'm speaking in this episode with Pepper
1:21.1	and she is a 7th generation Texan, 7th generation Texan. Yeah, I said that right. She wrote
1:29.4	the book, the notorious Texas Swindler, the mastermind behind the Grayson County 5. Some
1:39.9	of you may know the backstory of this or at least some of it without even having read
1:46.3	the book. My dad's a drink show. I talked to Jeremiah Hensley, my co-host on that show and we were
1:55.6	talking before we recorded an episode and I mentioned that I, you know, what I was just talking about
2:04.7	and he knew all about it because I guess it's, you know, one of those things in the true crime genre
2:11.0	that people know about and I'm kind of surprised more people don't know about it, including my
2:16.2	self. I didn't know a thing about it until I was preparing to speak with Pepper. So that
2:23.9	old being said, this is a kind of a crazy story about a prison escape that happened back in 2001,
2:32.5	a little bit after 9-11. We do touch on that and one of these five inmates who escaped is related
2:43.7	to Pepper. So I won't spoil much more because I think, you know, we kind of cover a good amount in
2:51.0	this chat that we had. So hope you enjoy it. Check out her book. It is a page turner and ironically,
2:59.4	she's nominated for an award. I think it's called the page turner award. So go figure, huh?
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