There are a few things more difficult than creating a social movement that leads to a dramatic transformation of widely shared societal beliefs.

It's not impossible, some success... of widely shared societal beliefs.

It's not impossible.

Some successful examples include the civil rights movement,

the gay rights movement, and the legalization of marijuana.

My guest today, Richard Reeves, is trying to accomplish exactly that. But for a group, you probably didn't even realize needed help, boys and men.

Men are earning less, they're employed less, they're... needed help, boys and men.

Men are earning less, they're employed less, their health is deteriorating.

The continued trend lines down on so many dimensions for men.

Of course that's bad, principally for men. Turns out it's not great for the women

that they're living with or raising kids with either.

Welcome to people I mostly admire with Steve Lovett.

When I first heard about Richard Reeves and his agenda,

I was tempted to dismiss him as an ideologue, but I was also intrigued enough to read his arguments.

And what I discovered is that Richard Reeves is, in fact, one of the most careful and thoughtful data-driven policy analysts around.

I find his arguments completely unexpected, yet extremely persuasive.

I'm curious whether he'll be as effective and convincing you as he wasn't convincing me.

If I would ask people at a dinner party what group in society is really struggling badly

I think the last response I'd get would be men, but the day to say otherwise.

The very idea of gender equality, quite rightly for many reasons just immediately,

then folks, okay, you're talking about women and girls, doing better.

Well, actually, there's a few gender gaps now.

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