Hello, everybody. Welcome to Homo Sapiens. I'm Alan Cumming.

I'm Christopher Sweeney.

Boy oh boy. I want to tell you about this week's guest because I am so excited to have spoken to him.

He is one of my favorite Instagram accounts.

He's slightly stocked and didn't you? Got him on the show.

Was that scary? Maybe.

On Instagram, he's called At Gay Therapy. Nick Fager is his name.

And he is a therapist. He lives in New York.

But his Ram Sainte Ventusco.

That's it. He does these brilliantly simple Instagram posts with just a little piece of

little nugget of information that will enlighten you about the queer experience.

And we sat down with him quite a while ago now, wasn't it?

Yes. It's a long time. Got to send my room at the top of my house in New York.

Yeah. More than a year ago actually.

But you know, that's the thing about gay therapy. The issues don't go away.

Oh honey. In fact, they probably have only got more intense in the last year.

Just scratch the surface.

But what I tell you is, I often think this show is like a bit like doing a therapy session

with these people because we just sort of ramble on and see a stream of consciousness

and often affecting our psych egos and our bodies and our self-image and everything.

And it was so interesting to do this podcast with an actual therapist because the thing about

therapists is that you know, you sort of, when it's your therapy, you kind of, you ramble on.

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