Welcome to the BiggerPuckus Money Podcast, show number 143, where we interview Shannon Gothier and hear

her story of massive debt pay down.

Not realizing that it was important, I guess, is the strangest thing, but you don't know what you don't know.

And your experiences are what they are, but not being able to have those many conversations and

focus on things

are fine is never gonna be okay ever.

And that would probably be the one thing

that I tell everybody is you need to,

if you're not even, if you're not paying the bills, you need to if you're not even if you're not paying the

bills and you need to look at the statements you need to see what's being spends and

actually have some control and some say so over that.

Hello hello hello my name is Mindy Jensen and with me as always is my effervescent co-host

Scott French.

Thank you as always for the bubbly introduction, Mindy.

Scott and I are here to make financial independence less scary, less just for somebody else,

and show you that by following the proven steps, you can put yourself on the road to early financial

freedom and get money out of the way so you can lead your best life.

That's right. Whether you want to retire early and travel the world, go on to make big time investments

and assets like real estate, or simply pay down your debt. It will help you build a position capable of launching yourself towards those dreams. Scott I am so excited to bring Shannon's story to our listeners today because she has a story with some

challenges in there. She had quite a bit of debt I believe at one point it was

hovering around a160,000

while she and her boyfriend were making between

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