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#142: Top-40 careers | Isiah Thomas, Elgin Baylor & overrating the 1960s

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Thinking Basketball

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🗓️ 13 September 2022

⏱️ 69 minutes

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In episode 2 of the top-40 career series, we take a long look at Isiah Thomas. Why is Thomas often viewed as one of the 3 or 4 best point guards in NBA history? How responsible was he for the success of the Detroit Bad Boys? And why has he moved up on this update? We also discuss Clyde Drexler Elgin Baylor and debate whether there are generally too many 1960s stars near the top of traditional NBA GOAT lists. With @codyhoudek. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball

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0:00.0

Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thinking basketball podcast, my name is Ben.

0:11.0

Welcome back to a special episode. is

0:15.0

episode two of our top 40 careers and of course this is the update this series

0:19.0

and of course this is the update this series that we're going to run through. We have no idea

0:23.6

how many episodes it's going to take but this is the second one. In episode one

0:28.0

we kind of broke down the criteria, the perspective, the idea behind this list that I created in

0:36.2

2017 around the 40 quote unquote 40 best or 40 most valuable careers that have played out in NBA history based on on court play.

0:47.0

We take into account health and what error you played in and things like that.

0:51.0

In episode one, we talked about the new players that potentially could have made

0:55.3

this list and the few that have entered this list in this update that we're doing five years later.

1:01.5

We talked about the honorable mention guys, which

1:04.0

means, you know, they could have been in this top 40. If you wake up and you do this exact same

1:08.2

exercise and you end up with Kevin McHale at 36 or something like that. That is essentially the same valuation,

1:16.4

essentially the same conclusion or estimation that we've reached about Kevin McHale

1:21.1

because the difference Cody and Spots at this point in the list between

1:25.1

like 44 and 38 is just which way the wind is blowing sometime.

1:30.9

And one thing we will start to discuss more now that we've cleared the honorable mentions off the table

1:36.7

Is this idea of ranges of course when I do the top ten list at the end of every year. I try to emphasize the sort of reasonable range in my

1:45.2

head that I'm evaluating a player at. Is this someone who, based on a high-end estimation,

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