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It's hard to believe, but more than 26 years have passed since I became Catholic.

Even so, I still get asked on a fairly regular basis about my conversion story.

And I totally get it. Everyone loves a conversion story.

After all, it's inspiring to hear about all the little winks and nudges from God - not to mention all the momentous, life-changing, divine thunderbolts that God uses to draw his beloved children home to the Church. 

I had my fair share...and then some.

That said, conversion is normally a process. It takes time.

And for me, part of it was the pursuit of a deeper spiritual life.

I unexpectedly found something in the Catholic faith that I never quite did as a Protestant.

And I recently sat down with a young man named Cameron Bertuzzi on his very popular podcast Capturing Christianity to share that part of my story.

Today's Art of Catholic podcast contains an excerpt from that interview.

In this episode, Cameron and I discuss the massive role the spiritual life of the Church played in my conversion, as well as the ways in which my understanding and practice of the spiritual life exploded once I became Catholic.

During our conversation, I also address some of the practicalities I learned were involved in the spiritual life, such as:

• The stages of spiritual growth
• The teachings of the saints on how to pray
• How it all works together
• ...And much more!

This is a unique conversation that people have told me they've found truly helpful. 

God bless,

Matthew