1407: Mormon Faith Crisis Stake Fireside: Patrick Mason in Logan/Cache Valley, Utah (2021)

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 17 March 2021

⏱️ 184 minutes

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Summary

Today I share (and provide reactions to) a recent fireside given on February 28, 2021 by faithful Mormon scholar and Utah State University professor Patrick Mason given at the Logan Utah Cache West Stake.

This is a re-recording. I decided to re-record because I felt as though my reactions were too angry. Honestly, I felt a bit unhinged. I know that many of you valued the passion. I'm sincerely sorry to disappoint you. My overall goal has always been for the podcast to feel "safe" for questioning Mormons, and I don't want to lose that for this important episode.

I have included screen shots of the questions that were submitted by questioning stake members during the Q&A, which can be found here. I have also included the stake president statement that they decided NOT share Patrick’s presentation on the stake Facebook page as they had said they would during the presentation.

Finally, a HUGE thanks to Angelina at GroveTrove Getaways for supplying us with this video. If you want to thank Angelina, you can find her on Instagram @agrovetrove.

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host,
0:05.5	John D'Alene. It's March 17th, 2021. And I am cautiously excited for today's episode
0:13.6	just to give you a little bit of background. A couple days ago, I received a video file
0:19.3	of a fireside given on February 28th, 2021 at the Logan, Utah cash valley west stake in Logan,
0:29.8	Utah given by Patrick Mason, who is a Utah State University professor of religious studies,
0:36.9	and Patrick has been on Mormon Stories in the past. And he's a noted author. This fireside,
0:43.5	the Patrick gave in Logan is dedicated to helping members in this Logan stake deal with the
0:52.3	faith crisis and or deal with loved ones who are experiencing a faith crisis. And I just want to
1:00.2	say at the outset, I think that this is a groundbreaking important moment in Mormon history. And overall,
1:09.0	I could not be more thrilled and proud of Patrick as a friend for what he's doing here and what he
1:15.8	does. I think this is a real act of courage and integrity in so many ways. It's also a very
1:20.5	triggering episode for post Mormons. Many people who have seen this have been very upset by it.
1:27.4	And I actually recorded an episode of my reactions to this presentation yesterday. And I felt like I
1:36.0	came across as too angry as as a bit unhinged. And I blamed it on the coffee, but I think there's
1:43.3	more to it than that. But I won't bore you with any of that. I will just say that this is a
1:47.5	re-recording of my reaction to this presentation. And my goal is to be as kind and as fair and as
1:56.4	diplomatic and as balanced as possible. I will have a lot of compliments for Patrick. And I will
2:03.7	have some feedback for Patrick or for other Mormon apologists. And I may express some concerns.
2:10.2	But I hope to do it in a very balanced and compassionate and wise way. I apologize in
2:16.3	advance to those of you who caught it yesterday and really liked the passion because there are so
2:22.5	many struggling Mormons or ex-Mormons in pain. And sometimes if there's a lot of anger expressed
2:29.8	on a podcast, there's a lot who are in pain that really resonate with that. I just want to be
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