Merchor here. Welcome back to the realignment.

Social media is to elites like body cams are for the cops, right?

It's like suddenly stuff that you wouldn't have seen is there on display,

often out of context and manipulable, manipulable in various ways, right?

Like you think you're getting the truth because it's video,

but video two can be, can be manipulated and very

contextualized in many ways as we see.

I've wanted to interview Antonio Garcia Martinez for so long.

I actually read his book Chaos Monkeys,

I've seen Fortune in Renovular and Silicon Valley years ago.

And it's literally one of my favorite books of all time.

I have it on Audible and I loved it so much.

I purchased it in paperback as well too to have on bookshelf that you can

notice on YouTube if you watch the show there.

It's been a real privilege to speak with him just because there's obviously

a lot of controversy around Antonio.

If you want to get into the circumstances of his firing from Apple and all

the dynamics, there you could go check out a different episode because frankly,

I think the most interesting thing about him is in a debate about cancellation.

It's just the fact that this is a guy who can go and have a podcast conversation

on everything from the 30 years war and the founding of the nation state in

1648 to debates about Latinx, to Israel, Palestine, to advertising,

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