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Mormon Stories Podcast

1397: Civil War - John Gee vs. the Joseph Smith Papers Project

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2021

⏱️ 188 minutes

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Summary

Recently, BYU Egyptologist John Gee published an article via the online Mormon apologetic website "The Interpreter" - attacking the scholarship of the Joseph Smith Papers Project, specifically Volume 4 of "The Joseph Smith Papers Revelations and Translations." The article is entitled: "Fantasy and Reality in the Translation of the Book of Abraham."

Gee's main attack targets are recently retired BYU professor Brian Hauglid and current LDS church employee Robin Jensen.

- Why would a BYU professor be attacking the work of the Joseph Smith Papers project - both of which are owned and controlled by the LDS Church?

- What issues are at stake in this battle between old style and new style Mormon apologists?

Join me and Radio Free Mormon on Friday at 11:15am Utah time as we discuss the history and details of this "civil war" within the world of Mormon apologetics.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, everybody. Welcome to another edition of

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Marmistory's podcast and what I should actually say is a joint podcast production brought to you by Marmistory's podcast and Radio Free Mormon.

0:12.2

I am John DeLin and I am so excited today for this really important episode.

0:18.5

We are streaming live on Facebook and on YouTube and today we have a really important subject to talk about.

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The title of today's podcast is Civil War, the battle between John Guy, BYU professor, Egyptologist and the Joseph Smith

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papers project, which is also sponsored by the Mormon Church or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

0:41.7

This is really interesting that the question is why would a BYU professor bankrolled and funded by the Mormon Church as an

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apologist, the Mormon Church's top Egyptologist, why would he be attacking the Church's own Joseph Smith papers project and specifically, I believe it's volume four, which is a recent volume released by the Joseph Smith

1:05.0

papers project that is talking specifically about the Book of Abraham. That makes no sense unless you've been following these stories closely.

1:13.6

And so in a joint production effort, I have brought on one of my favorite experts on Joseph Smith and the Book of Abraham and all things Mormon, of course, Radio Free Mormon.

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It is so wonderful to have you back on Mormon Church's podcast.

1:27.6

Thanks, John. It's great to be here.

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So for those who don't know, for the three of you who don't know, Radio Free Mormon can be found at RadioFreeMormon.org.

1:36.0

And it's a phenomenally legendary, important podcast with at least 213 episodes.

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It's sponsored by Bill. I'm going to say at least 213 listeners.

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Absolutely.

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Sorry. And I'm 2114.

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It's sponsored by Bill Reel, of course, who's done amazing work and continues to do amazing work.

1:55.4

Really quickly, Radio Free Mormon, talk about your podcast and about Bill Reel and about Marginan Tyrope and all the great things brought to you by your organization.

2:05.4

Well, sure. It's really Bill Reel is the mastermind behind this and he has MormonDiscussions.com, which he's done for a number of years, which he continues to do.

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And a few years ago, it was 2016. He brought me on as a podcaster at RadioFreeMormon under the umbrella of Mormon discussions.

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And under that umbrella, there is now RadioFreeMormon. There's also marriage on the Tyrope with Alan and Katie Mouth.

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