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Mormon Stories Podcast

1398: Contemplative Mormonism - Jana Spangler Pt. 1

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2021

⏱️ 190 minutes

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Summary

Is it possible to stay active in the LDS Church in 2021 after....

....learning all of the problematic history... ....becoming an ally for LGBTQ Mormons... ...becoming a feminist... ...becoming an "intellectual Mormon"... and after losing one's orthodox faith?

More importantly, why would anyone WANT to?

In Part 1 of my two-part interview with dear friend and faith transitions coach Jana Spangler, Jana tells us the story of her Mormon faith journey, which includes:

  • Battling with perfectionism as an LDS teen and young adult.
  • Feeling broken and inadequate as a single Mormon woman attending the University Utah, struggling to meet the church's standards of "worthiness."
  • Being threatened with an LDS Disciplinary Council be a well-meaning Mormon bishop, and how that actually HELPED turn Jana's life around at the time.
  • Finding and marrying Rob - who "checked all the Mormon boxes" at the time.
  • Batting with infertility.
  • Experiencing self-doubt and depression as a Mormon Mom.
  • How Jana's passion for self-improvement and retreats/workshops led to a Mormon faith crisis.
  • Jana's shifting views of Christ's atonement, which include absolute, unconditional love.
  • Jana's courage to share her testimony struggles with her Holladay, Utah ward and stake.
  • How untraditional Mormon podcast hosts, authors, and organizations (such as Bill Reel, Gina Colvin, Dan Wotherspoon, John Dehlin, Thomas Wirthlin McConkie, Sunstone, etc.), along with a supportive husband and understanding church leaders, helped Jana find a way to stay ACTIVE in the LDS Church.
  • What factors led Jana to decide to stay active in the LDS Church...for now.

In Part 2, Jana provides a more detailed framework for how others can find a way to remain active in the LDS Church if they so desire, inspired by the works of Richard Rohr and James Fowler (among others).

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of Mormon Stories Podcast.

0:03.8

I'm your host, John Delin.

0:05.6

It is February 17, 2021.

0:11.0

And I am super excited today to have in Mormon Stories Podcast Studios, Janice Bangler.

0:17.6

Hey, Janice.

0:18.6

Hi, John.

0:19.6

Welcome to Mormon Stories Podcast.

0:21.4

Thank you.

0:22.4

So I've had Janice on Mormon Stories a few times, often in panels to talk about topics

0:29.2

to you or below we've never done is just to have Janice in to kind of tell our story.

0:34.4

And if I had to kind of describe why I was interested in Janice, it's not just that she's

0:40.3

almost a neighbor.

0:42.1

She is a lovely human.

0:44.3

And one of the traditions of Mormon Stories Podcast over the years is to interview people

0:50.4

who know all the problems with the church, who care about women and women's issues and minorities,

0:58.6

racial issues, LGBTQ issues, all the issues that kind of vex or plague modern Mormonism,

1:05.4

intellectual issues, etc.

1:07.3

And who find a way or who choose for whatever reason to stay engaged with the Church of

1:14.5

Jesus Christ of Latter-East Saints as participatory, active or semi-active members.

1:20.0

For those who have been listening to Mormon Stories for quite some time, you'll remember

1:23.2

my interviews with Dan, Witherspoon and others, and that is the angle from which I wanted

1:30.6

to interview Janice because she is in a semi-mixed faith marriage, I would say.

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