Good Day Thomas Jefferson Hour podcast listeners in.

As always, thank you so much for listening.

We've just been so fortunate to have Joe Ellis on the show so many times in the past couple of months.

It's just I just I love listening to the two of you talk and pick each other's

brains it's it's and it's a great conversation this listening to the two of you talk and pick each other's brains.

And it's a great conversation this week.

It was really fun because Joe took over.

And he said, no, no, I'm gonna ask you questions.

And he did.

He asked me about the themes of my book

Reparing Jefferson's America and it was fun to have him be the interlocutor

and me the defensive person trying to bob and weave away from his

questions you know it's such a rich now now he was asking for Bob and weave away from his questions.

You know, it's such a rich...

Oh now now, now he was asking fair questions.

The pandemic has given us such a gift.

It's given us many gifts, but the one I'm talking about now is the gift of Joseph Ellis.

We've had the chance to talk with him for six full hours

in the last month.

And it's only wet at our appetite for more.

You know, he's really a magisterial historian who has earned his his authority on a

range of questions particularly John Adams and Thomas Jefferson but also George Washington and Alexander Hamilton and Benjamin Franklin and many others.

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