What all of us mostly do is we actually say, I'm at point A, but I want to be at point B.

Well, the only way to get the point B is to be the person at point B.

This is why people write down their goals on a yearly basis, but they never get there.

Because they're being the person at point A where they are, instead of being the person at point B where they want to be.

They keep repeating that pattern over and over and over again.

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Before we jump in here with this interview with Jim Fortin, I just wanted to share a couple

of things with you.

First of all, this is a long interview full of a lot of new ideas.

Definitely, definitely want to go back and listen to this one twice for sure. I already have. Both times I got something completely different out of it. So this may actually be an instant classic. I think you're really going to like it. This show and the content that I talk about with Jim, it represents something that we're going to be talking more about.

I want to go beyond motivation and I really want to understand more about how our subconscious, how our brain, how our tendencies, like we talk about with Gretchen Rubin, how all of these things factor into lasting change, into really moving

forward to a life of intention. You know what I mean? One of design, where we're truly growing

and progressing beyond the status quo, but doing it within ourselves, in alignment with

ourselves, not outside of ourselves. We'll talk a lot more about that.

But if there's someone in this area, the area of habits, brain science, mindset, all of this

arena, if you will, if there's someone that you want me to talk about in this space,

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