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The Killafornia Dreaming Podcast

#139 The Tale of a Tragedy in Newfoundland: The Story Behind "Dear Zachary" [Part 6]

The Killafornia Dreaming Podcast

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True Crime, Killers, Non-fiction, Mystery, Justice System, News, Podcast, Criminal, Murder, California, Law Enforcement, Discussion, Crime

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2020

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Summary

The Tragic Story Of The 2001 Murder Of Andrew Bagby Followed By The 2003 Murder-Suicide Of Andrew's 13 Month Old Zachary Turner And His Mother Shirley Turner [Part 6]

**KD IS NO LONGER WITH ORBITAL JIGSAW OR BLUBRRY**

WARNING: This episode contains details involving the death of a young child and may be difficult to listen to. Listener discretion is advised.

This is the sixth and final part of a six part series. If you haven't listened to the first 5 parts, pause this, listen to those first, then come back. Zachary Andrew Turner was murdered by the hands of his mother on August 18, 2003 at the age of 13 months. She also was responsible for the murder of Zachary’s father, Andrew David Bagby, 1 year 9 months and 14 days earlier. In this series, we are going to examine the entire timeline from the very beginning to see just how preventable this tragedy should have been, to examine the warning signs that so many people overlooked, and discuss just how fair the justice system should be when it comes to the rights of parents - especially when that parent is actually facing indictment for her child’s father.

SOURCES:
Dear Zachary: A Letter To A Son About His Father By Kurt Kuenne
https://www.childandyouthadvocate.nf.ca/pdfs/turner-v1.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EQI0bO9KSw
https://www.ranker.com/list/dear-zachary-timeline/crystal-brackett
https://dearzachary.com/press/Telegraph-Destroyed.pdf
https://medium.com/@lauloulew/the-murder-of-andrew-bagby-9cb717a803a8
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/no-need-for-zachary-turner-to-die-death-review-1.596561

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This episode contains details involving the murder of a young child and may be distressing for some.

0:08.0

Listener discretion is advised.

0:19.0

13 month old Zachary Andrew Turner was left in the care of his mother. And it feels like we've gone over a million reasons why he never should have been.

0:25.4

And why we should have never come to know Zachary.

0:29.3

And why we should not be sitting here talking about him today.

0:38.0

Welcome back to the tale of losing Andrew, losing Zachary,

0:42.0

a California Dreaming multi-part series.

0:45.6

If you haven't listened to Parts 1 through 5, pause this here and listen to those first,

0:51.6

so you're caught up.

0:54.0

In part five we discussed Zachary's birth

0:57.0

and the involvement of child youth and family services

1:00.0

in caring for Shirley, Zachary, for Shirley's youngest daughter

1:05.0

and some of the missteps made by CYFS,

1:08.0

as well as the beginnings of the Bagby's involvement in Zachary's life.

1:13.0

We also discussed why the extradition proceedings have been delayed for so long.

1:20.0

In this part six, it will be our final part.

1:24.4

We are going to pick it up from when Shirley's interim release from December 12, 2001,

1:29.7

when she was granted bail, was canceled, and she was taken back into custody on November 14, 2002 from the Newfoundland Supreme Court and held overnight in St. John's.

1:57.4

The following day on November 15, 2002, she was brought by the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary to the Clarinville Correctional Center for Women,

2:07.0

a two-hour drive from St. John's, and she would remain there imprisoned until January 7th 2003.

2:16.4

Shirley had 30 days to appeal the extradition committal order and she was entitled to apply

2:22.4

for judicial interim release pending her appeal.

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