I'm Aiton Weinstein.

And I'm Naor Menninger.

And you're listening to Two Nice Jewish Boys.

This podcast is made in collaboration with the Jewish Journal.

Today we're joined on the podcast by Jonathan Languel.

But Jonathan's name wasn't always Jonathanonatan, it was Lutz.

Right, right?

And Lutz used to be an ardent neo-Nazi.

Today, Yonatan is an observant, Orthodox Jew, who lives in Israel and studies Kabbalah,

the Jewish mystical school of thought.

The road that led from Lutz to Yonatan was a long one.

But before all that, the story begins with a kid's karate instructor.

That's true.

So we're really excited to have you on the podcast today to tell us your story.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you for having me.

Really, it's a pleasure.

It's an honor.

So where should we start?

Maybe you or when?

When?

Well, maybe you want to start with a karate thing.

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