Hello everyone and welcome back to my interview with Bruce Bastion my recent interview with Bruce Bastion

Of course 10 years ago around 2010 I interviewed Bruce Bastion philanthropist founder of WordPerfect

Someone who's been instrumental in the fight for LGBT rights in Utah and

Across the country but also someone who formed one of the most important companies in my life and

In the history of tech word perfect corporation that ended up being purchased by no val

You can listen all that in the previous episode and in the interview. I did 10 years ago with Bruce

I'm John Dillin. We just spent

Some time with Bruce talking about his life since 2010 and specifically focusing around his philanthropy

and even more specifically his philanthropy with HRC the Human Rights Commission and all that they did

in response to propate

That ultimately led to the legalization of same-sex marriage in the United States nationwide by 2015 and some really good

Human rights legislation

LGBT affirming legislation here in the state of Utah so much good has happened and

Bruce has been such an important part of

This state in this country and of improving the lives of you know 5% of us basically here in the in the United States

And in the world so it was super fun to catch up with Bruce

But I'm way more excited even so about what you are about to hear today. So when Bruce Bastion

You know came out as a gay man left the LDS church

was divorced from his wife and

and

lived his life for a few decades

You know as we talked about last time Bruce maybe at some point got a little bit disillusioned about

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