This is The Art of Catholic.

Welcome to The Art of Catholic, I'm Matthew Leonard and today I've got a great story

for you, a powerful story of conversion, supernatural life, natural death and big dreams to

help Catholics experience God.

It's a story of my very dear friend and spiritual big sister Betsy or NS1 you're going to

want it here.

So here's a skinny on Betsy.

She's a native of a Lantan Georgia which you'd never get listening to or say hi Betsy.

Hey Matt.

Like I said, she's got two adult kids.

She converted into Catholicism back in 2000,

and that's a big part of the story.

Only a few months after her conversion,

tragedy struck her family.

We're going to hear more about that shortly.

And before she became Catholic,

she was one of those kind of Bible study dynamos

who leads very large groups, like hundreds of people.

And she was extremely active in her church.

And she's continued that in her Catholicism.

I once spoke a year ago to a group of ladies in her home.

And by a group, I mean, it was like 75 women

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