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Counselling Tutor

137 – Counselling Suicidal Clients

Counselling Tutor

Ken Kelly and Rory Lees-Oakes

Education, Courses

4.6 β€’ 636 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 18 January 2020

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Taking a Year out of Your Course - Dealing with Disagreements with Colleagues In episode 137 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Ken Kelly and Rory Lees-Oakes talk about counselling suicidal clients, or clients who express suicidal thoughts. 'Check-In with CPCAB' then looks at what to do if you need to take a year out of your course. Finally, in 'Practice Matters', the presenters discuss dealing with disagreements with colleagues. Β * BACPAC practice management software for counsellors and psychotherapists is a sponsor of the Counselling Tutor Podcast. Get a 30-day free trial of BACPAC and a 30% discount by using the discount code CT2020 Counselling Suicidal Clients (starts at 1.45 mins) Rory opens this first segment, which focuses on counselling suicidal clients, by talking about the importance of language relating to suicide. The term 'committing' suicide dates back to a time when suicide was against the law; as this is no longer so, it should not now be used. Also, the term suicidal 'ideation' (thinking) sounds very clinical and is not therefore a good fit in the context of counselling. Ken and Rory offer a number of tips on counselling suicidal clients, or working with clients who express suicidal thoughts: Don't panic: if the client is communicating about this, there is hope. Try to calmly explore the meaning of what they are saying together. In particular, consider how advanced this thinking is - e.g. has the client made a plan of how they would take their own life, and is there clear intent to actually do so? Look for other warning signs (e.g. giving away possessions, not making future plans etc.). Consider whether the client has any risk factors or behaviours, e.g. alcohol use or previous suicide attempts. Ensure you understand your agency's policy and procedures on dealing with suicidal clients, including who at the agency to involve if the client seems to have serious intent to take their own life. Remember that the contract will have spelt out how the agency responds to disclosures of suicidal intent, including onward referral if need be. Record all your actions in your notes in a factual way, as evidence that you have followed policy and acted professionally. Make sure you're well-educated on counselling suicidal clients - for example, you might like to look at the lecture by Dr Eoin Galavan in the Counselling Study Resource (CSR). In short, remember Rory's maxim: hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Check-In with CPCAB: Taking a Year out of Your Course (starts at 16.40 mins) Rory talks to Heather Price (Senior Counselling Professional) about what to do if you need to take a year out in the middle of your level 4 diploma (or other qualification) course - for example if you have experienced a bereavement, relationship split or job loss. She offers tips on what to do if you are considering this; most importantly, talk to your tutor as soon as possible. For more information about CPCAB, please see its website. CPCAB is the UK's only awarding body run by counsellors for counsellors. Dealing with Disagreements with Colleagues (starts at 29.30 mins) It is natural sometimes to disagree with colleagues - but do remember that if you and a colleague see things differently, it doesn't necessarily mean that either of you is wrong. The BACP's Ethical Framework for the Counselling Professions gives us a duty of candour, meaning we have a responsibility to speak out if - having reflected carefully - we consider that a colleague is behaving in a way that puts clients at risk. First, you should discuss the matter at supervision to check that there really is a problem and that the issue does not in fact relate to your own process. There is also a useful tool in the CSR: an ethical problem-solving matrix that can help you work out the best way forward. Personal development in your training will have prepared you ...

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Counseling Tutor Podcast. The must listen to podcast for students of

0:07.6

counseling and psychotherapy. Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly.

0:16.0

Hi, I'm Rory and with me as always is Ken. How you doing, Ken?

0:21.4

Exceptional Rory. So delighted to be here. You have tuned in to episode 137 of the

0:28.1

counseling tutor podcast. And today we are covering three topics in our episode. The first topic

0:34.0

is what do we do if a client mentions that they are feeling suicidal?

0:40.6

Secondly, we're going to be going into check-in with CPCAB, where Rory, you spoke with

0:45.9

Heather Price, and you spoke about taking a year out of study. Can you kind of give us a

0:50.9

flavour of what to expect from that? Yeah, so John Lennon famously said,

0:54.6

life happens well you're planning other things. I think I'm paraphrasing. And sometimes, you know,

1:00.4

a two-year course is a big commitment and sometimes, you know, on the level four course,

1:04.7

people can't make the other year because life just gets in the way. So I'm talking to Heather

1:09.1

about how you can defer a year, the mechanisms of that,

1:13.2

and also what you might come across when you come to re-engage with your studies.

1:19.0

It's essential listening if anybody's thinking of taking a bit of time out.

1:22.6

Like it.

1:23.4

And then we'll be ending episode 137 today with our new section, practice matters, where we look at issues that relate to qualified practitioners in practice.

1:33.7

And we're going to be speaking about what to do when you have a disagreement with a colleague, how that can influence on your practice.

1:40.5

So let's start off with our first topic, which is when clients mention feeling

1:45.8

suicidal. Yes, and I want to kind of state for the record, if you like, that this is a very

1:52.6

delicate and sensitive topic. But, you know, for students who may have just going into practice

1:59.6

and as someone who taught for a long time,

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