#136 Why Did The World Get So Ugly? - Alain de Botton
Within Reason
Alex J O'Connor
4.9 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 26 December 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Get tickets for my UK tour here.
Alain de Botton is the creator of The School of Life. A Swiss-born British author and public speaker, his books discuss various contemporary subjects and themes, emphasising philosophy's relevance to everyday life.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, I'm going on a tour of the United Kingdom. If you've ever been interested in that big question of God's existence, or try to make sense of religion in the 21st century, or consciousness, or anything philosophical, then join me on stage as I try to work out some of these topics with you. |
| 0:16.8 | I'll be in conversation with a good friend, but also bring questions because there will be an extensive Q&A and maybe even an opportunity to hear and rate some of your philosophical hot takes. |
| 0:27.3 | The tour dates are on screen. |
| 0:28.6 | The link to buy tickets is in the description, and I hope to see you there. |
| 0:32.1 | Alanda Baton, welcome to the show. |
| 0:33.7 | Thank you so much. |
| 0:34.5 | A lot of people think the world is getting uglier. |
| 0:39.4 | And there's this sort of sentiment that we don't care about beauty anymore. And all you need to do is walk around |
| 0:43.8 | your local city to notice that in the architecture, in the intricacies of the designs, in art |
| 0:52.4 | that you see in a gallery walking by, even like the design of cars and street |
| 0:55.8 | furniture, beauty just isn't something that we care about anymore. Do you think that's true? |
| 1:00.4 | Well, you started by saying there's this sense that, that people think that. I think the striking |
| 1:05.5 | thing is they don't think that at all. We've become strangely inured to ugliness. So I'd agree with you, yes, the world has become |
| 1:12.9 | definitively uglier. But I think what's striking is that there is absolutely no sizable |
| 1:18.2 | public recognition of the fact. When people talk about the environment, what they mean is |
| 1:23.0 | environmental degradation from chemicals and ozone depletion and CO2 levels, |
| 1:30.3 | etc. They do not talk about ugliness. And so there is no large-scale political movement that addresses |
| 1:41.3 | ugliness. Occasionally, someone, you know, sometimes me, sometimes others stick their heads |
| 1:46.9 | above the parapet. |
| 1:47.8 | I've written a lot about this. |
| 1:48.9 | I've gone out and made films about this and posted videos on YouTube about this that |
| 1:53.5 | have got traction. |
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