Lawyers think like that David and Goliath story, and I know we talk about a lot, champion against the big corporations, but like this isn't David and Goliath. This is where the reality comes in. Wall Street's the Goliath that never loses. You're talking about trillions of dollars.

Welcome to a special edition of the Game Changing Attorney podcast recorded live at the 2022 Game Changers Summit on the field of Mercedes-Benz Stadium

in Atlanta, Georgia.

Everyone here is broke, has zero dollars compared to Wall Street.

John Morgan's broke.

So yeah, if you're going to play the next game, you've got to learn that business.

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth within our own organization

and help the country's most ambitious

and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs.

In each episode of this podcast,

I sit down with innovative market leaders

from the legal industry and beyond

to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity,

challenge the status quo,

and define what it means

to be a true game changer. Today, we're featuring my conversation about building the law firm of the

future with the founder of Johnson Firm and America's techiest lawyer, Anthony Johnson, the founding

partner of Mary Weather and Tharp, Bob Tharp, the CEO of Alexander Shinar trial attorneys,

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