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Listening to America

#1350 Diamonds and Dunghills

Listening to America

Listening to America

Society & Culture, History

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2019

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

This week, Clay takes a deeper look at Jefferson and religion. Jefferson considered the teachings of Jesus as having "the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man," but he felt that the pure teachings of Jesus were inaccurately appropriated by some of the early followers of Jesus which led to a Bible that had both "diamonds" of wisdom and the "dung" of ancient political agendas.

In Notes on the State of Virginia, Thomas Jefferson wrote, "Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth."

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0:00.0

Good Day Thomas Jefferson, our podcast listeners.

0:04.0

And welcome.

0:05.0

Thank you for listening.

0:06.7

I'm off to the Lewis and Clark Trail.

0:08.8

Yeah, you're excited.

0:09.8

My car's nearly packed.

0:10.8

I had to shovel it out that took three or four hours and

0:14.6

which RAI are you going to stop at?

0:17.2

Not this time every year I go and buy a new tent and I think well how many do you

0:20.6

really want you know I'm rehabilitating all my old gear and I found it in the

0:26.2

garage that's good I actually cleaned out my garage and so now I could find the gear I

0:31.1

mean my life is getting better in almost every way. Well my daughter's going to

0:35.1

Oxford. Yeah I heard that and you know that's not for the faint of heart and we're going to have to make a few sacrifices to make this happen and so I...

0:44.4

Can I make you a vote for one of those student loan forgiveness candidates?

0:48.1

I'm with Elizabeth Warren now, she can't be inaugurated fast enough for me. She got to forgive at all.

0:56.0

Retrospectively and prospectively.

0:58.0

Oh, Bernie does that too, doesn't he?

1:00.0

I'm 100% against a universal forgiveness of student loans.

1:03.6

I just you know I just no I can't go there.

1:06.3

But but the idea of making higher education more affordable for people is a good one.

1:11.0

And giving people breaks on interest on student loans, maybe forgiving some of it.

1:17.5

All I'm saying is that she's going to Oxford and it's a kind of a family sacrifice and I'm making my sacrifice. I am I have a

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