135. No Substitute For Nature with Zac Goldsmith
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
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🗓️ 20 December 2021
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
There’s no pathway to capping our global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius without protecting and restoring nature.
That’s the lay of the land according to The Rt Hon Lord Goldsmith, Minister for the Pacific and the International Environment - our final guest for 2021. At the close of a year that’s seen enormous momentum to incorporate forests and land use well and truly into the climate agenda, Lord Goldsmith shares insights into the context and his vision for the next twelve months.
So, where do we stand now? Among the remarkable outcomes of COP26 was a commitment to halting and reversing forest loss and land degradation by 2030. Signed by 141 countries, the Glasgow Leaders’ Declaration on Forest and Land Use covers an incredible 90 percent of global forest. We also saw meaningful progress at this year’s Convention on Biological Diversity in Kunming. And the direction of travel? Our ultimate challenge and goal, Lord Goldsmith says, is to reconcile our economy with our natural world – and now has to be the turning point.
So! Join us for a reflection on some major moments on the podcast this past year and a look into this turning point moment. Can we reduce emissions by 7% each consecutive year from here on out?
And - we have a holiday-themed song this year as our last song of the season! A special acoustic performance of “It’s Christmas” by Callum Beattie. Stick around for it!
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Zac Goldsmith (Rt Hon Lord)
Minister for the Pacific and the International Environment
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Outrageant Optimism, I'm Tom Ravit Karnak. |
| 0:15.3 | And Chris, you're not here this year. |
| 0:17.0 | And I'm Paul Dickinson. |
| 0:18.7 | This week, in our last episode of the year, we look back on the year that was 2021, |
| 0:23.4 | what we achieved, what still to do, and we cast our minds forward to the next crucial |
| 0:27.8 | year, next year, that's got to be just as momentous as the one that's just gone. |
| 0:31.7 | Plus, we bring you an interview with the right honourable Lord Zach Goldsmith about what |
| 0:36.2 | happened on Nature at COP26, and we have music from Callum Beatty. |
| 0:41.4 | Thanks for being here. |
| 0:49.2 | So, can hardly believe another year has gone. |
| 0:52.6 | It's been such fun to continue to do this podcast and observe the world as it passes |
| 0:56.9 | by and becomes ever more critical. |
| 0:58.8 | Paul, you want to come in? |
| 1:11.4 | I kind of felt that we were going to get through to the end of the year without another |
| 1:13.6 | episode of Outbreak of that, but thank you very much, Paul. |
| 1:15.8 | That was lovely. |
| 1:16.8 | It hasn't been many much carol scene this year for those around the world in other countries, |
| 1:21.6 | the UK, where both Paul and I am is currently experiencing a pretty intense moment |
| 1:26.9 | of COVID surge with the Omicron variant, but I hope very much it doesn't come to your |
| 1:30.7 | countries as well, because we seem to be, history seems to be repeating itself right now. |
| 1:34.8 | Hold on, Omicron is not actually yet in ranking that many people, it could be a kind of, |
| 1:39.4 | you know, it could be kind of, you're not collecting us, I mean, I hope I'm right. |
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