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Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

#1344: Depth

Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

Wizards of the Coast

Duels Of The Planeswalkers, Magic The Gathering, Games, Mark Rosewater, Ccg, Leisure, Mtg, Game Design

4.7801 Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I talk about the pros and cons of the depth of Magic's gameplay.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm pulling on my driveway.

0:02.0

We all know what that means.

0:03.5

It's time another drive to work.

0:06.1

Okay, so today is all about depth.

0:09.4

I did do a separate podcast of mechanical depth, by the way,

0:13.0

which is how many cards you can make out of a mechanic.

0:15.9

That's a separate topic.

0:17.9

So today I'm talking about a different kind of depth. So one of my favorite

0:23.1

sayings is your greatest weakness is your greatest strength push too far. And the idea

0:32.3

being that the thing that most makes you special and different and unique is also the thing that probably is your biggest handicap, that those come interrelated.

0:43.3

And so, magic's greatest strength, I believe, is it's depth.

0:49.3

You know, if I talk a lot about when you play magic, one of the things that Magic does, it allows you, the player, a lot of control, a lot of control, that you get to shape the experience you're going to have. I mean, obviously, you're playing with other people, so they also shape some of it, but the point is, there's many, many pieces. Right now, I think there's over 35,000 cards. You can choose, depending on your format, 40, 60, 100, whatever your format is. But you get to choose what you play with. And you have a lot of choice. I mean, so much choice. I mean, there's so many magic cards right now that you can't, you, I don't think the human brain can absorb all that. I don't think one person can just remember all

1:27.8

30,000 cards. Maybe there's somebody out there that's managed to do it, but, like there's a point in time

1:33.0

early in magic when I knew every card. I knew every cost. I knew every power toughness. I knew all the

1:39.9

artists. Like I knew, I could, in fact, I could tell you a reminder text. Like, there's a point where I knew everything. And even though I live and breathe magic, even though I do magic day in

1:49.5

day out, there just came a point where I can't possibly keep up. I mean, right now, for example,

1:54.8

I spend a lot of energy just trying to keep up with the mechanics. And even that is a challenge.

1:59.1

Even just knowing all the mechanics is a challenge.

2:02.0

And that is my job and what I focus on.

2:05.5

And so like the thing that I thought, so my point here is that magic's greatest strength

2:11.5

is that it allows its players so much freedom to have so much flexibility in deciding what it is they want the

2:20.8

game to be. There's a huge number of pieces that you can play with. And once again, you don't

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