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Listening to America

#1344 Baked In

Listening to America

Listening to America

Society & Culture, History

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2019

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

This week we speak with humanities scholar Clay S. Jenkinson about how rigid people's political thoughts have become during our time, George Will's observations on citizen's expectations of government and what a contemporary Jeffersonian political party might stand for.

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0:00.0

Good Day Thomas Jefferson, our podcast listeners and as always thank you for listening and you

0:06.9

podcast listeners thank you for writing. We really received some terrific letters and we

0:12.2

appreciate it and I swear I read every every

0:16.2

one of them. It's good and people are now proposing books that we should read I

0:19.7

got one today maybe you did too about the new book on Theodore Roosevelt and the trial in Syracuse later

0:26.6

in his life when he was fighting for his political legacy, and a really interesting new book has been published about so I'm going to contact the

0:34.4

authors and see if they will come on the show even though the third president of the

0:38.5

United States would not have liked the 26th and vice versa.

0:41.8

Right I was going to say 26th with N versa. Right, I was going to say.

0:43.1

26th with Nidal.

0:44.1

He hated Jefferson actually.

0:45.5

This week we talked about, we started out,

0:48.4

we a couple of weeks ago and I can't remember was a podcaster's show,

0:51.4

but you talked about this phrase baked in and how people's

0:56.5

opinions are so rigid, there's really no room for civil discourse anymore.

1:01.7

I think that we are in an undeclared non-violent civil

1:06.9

war, maybe moving towards a more violent civil war, but I think we're in one

1:11.6

and I think that there are two Americas. I've said

1:14.4

this in the last couple of months, and the two Americas not only don't want to talk

1:19.4

about it anymore, but they actually distrust each other and consider each other as treasonous or not

1:25.2

good Americans.

1:27.0

And I think that this hardens because each side antagonizes and annoys and frustrates and upsets the other and that hardens their position.

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