Thanks, buddy.

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Hello, John, what's up man?

How are you Joe?

Thanks for doing this, I really appreciate it.

Thanks a lot for having you, man.

It's great.

I heard you on Meteor Podcasts, and it blew my mind. I mean I could not believe let's just let

everybody know what this is about. You were a game warden now you are a game warden

and what that normally entails is like, you know, you find a guy and he's got three trout

when he's only supposed to have two, it's normal stuff, like catching people doing something they're not supposed to just making sure people

follow the rules.

Right.

Along the way you guys started discovering these illegal grow-ops where cartels were growing marijuana.

And you turned from being a regular game warden to essentially, well, why don't you let us know what how it worked out yeah

Joe it was it was a crazy journey because you don't think of game wardens doing the

type of work we were doing when it come to the the trespass gross and the

cartel issue you know and what do everybody think they think

anymore check fishing licenses yeah check your deer tag or elk tag look for too many you

know animals poaching spotlighting and honestly when I started the job, I got hired back in 1992, that's what I dreamed of doing.

You know, I grew up hunting and fishing and I got my hunter safety certificate with dad's help in nine years old.

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