My challenge to everybody in this room, if you haven't already done it, is get off the

hamster wheel that you're on for long enough, ask the tough questions about why the hell

are you doing this?

What do you want to really do at the end of the day?

What do you want to spend your time on?

And then follow that.

Welcome to a very special episode of the Game Changing Attorney podcast recorded live at the 2022 Game Changer Summit on the field of the Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Georgia.

I think the consistency is important, but I think the passion piece has got to be there to reach a certain level.

And if it's not there, it's just about money,

it's just about that. It's just not going to feel right.

I'm Jessica Mogul, head of coaching strategy at Crisp, the nation's number one law firm

growth company. Alongside Michael Mogul, we've built this business through practice,

not theory. Chris started with just $500 to Michael's name and has grown to over eight figures

in revenue over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing

private companies in America. Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about

generating massive growth within our

own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed law firm owners do the

same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, we sit down with innovative market leaders

from the legal industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity,

challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer.

I'm taking over today's episode featuring our conversation with America's preeminent trucking attorney Joe Freed,

the corporate serial killer, John Eustall, leader of the nation's largest female founded law firm, Jan Dills, and elite celebrity divorce attorney,

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