134. How Russia Made Trump: Was The Vote Rigged? (Ep 4)

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🗓️ 4 March 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Foreign spies are messing with the 2016 election. Private emails are being leaked. But what will Donald Trump say about it? In their latest episode on the Russian active measures campaign to hijack the 2016 US presidential election, David and Gordon go deep into the story of how the Obama campaign reacted to a series of leaked emails, and why the Republicans chose not to get involved. ------------------- Sign-up for our free newsletter where producer Becki takes you behind the scenes of the show: https://mailchi.mp/goalhanger.com/tric-free-newsletter-sign-up ------------------- Join the Declassified Club to go deeper into the world of espionage with exclusive Q&As, interviews with top intelligence insiders, regular livestreams, ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, and weekly deep dives into original spy stories. Members also get curated reading lists, special book discounts, prize draws, and access to our private chat community. Just go to ⁠⁠therestisclassified.com⁠ or join on Apple Podcasts. ------------------- Get a 10% discount on business PCs, printers and accessories using the code TRIC10. Visit https://HP.com/CLASSIFIED for more information. T&C's apply. ------------------- EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ ⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/restisclassified⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee ------------------- Email: therestisclassified@goalhanger.com Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@restisclassified Video Editor: Joe Pettit Social Producer: Emma Jackson Assistant Producer: Alfie Rowe Producer: Becki Hills Head of History: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	For exclusive interviews, bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to series,
0:09.0	first look at live show tickets, a weekly newsletter, and discounted books.
0:13.1	Join the declassified club at the rest is classified.com. Foreign spies are messing with the 2016 U.S. election.
0:28.6	Private emails are being leaked.
0:30.6	But what will Donald Trump say about it?
0:33.6	Well, welcome to the rest is classified.
0:35.6	I'm Gordon Carrera.
0:36.6	And I'm David McClarski.
0:37.8	And David, last time we looked at how an old-school Russian active measures operation had been updated for the modern internet world as a bunch of pop-tart eating GRU operatives.
0:50.1	I think they were eating pop-tarts, pop-Tops and Borsch hacked and stole emails from the Democratic Party
0:56.7	and the Democratic candidate in 2016 Hillary Clinton and then leaked them onto the internet through
1:02.8	various different channels and methods.
1:05.2	It took everyone by surprise.
1:07.1	And this time we're going to dig into how the campaign and crucially, I think, David, how the national security world in Washington reacts to this momentous development.
1:17.4	Although I think it's fair to say at the time, it wasn't really recognized perhaps just how momentous it was.
1:23.0	Exactly. And that's right, Gordon.
1:24.1	We are going to be looking in depth in this episode at how the
1:28.4	intelligence community in particular in the U.S. responds.
1:32.4	And the campaign, the Clinton campaign, they don't much appreciate what's going on
1:37.1	over the course of the summer of 2016.
1:38.7	Having their emails leaked.
1:39.9	The Clinton campaign, I think, right off the bat, given the work that CrowdStrike had done
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