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The Rest Is Classified

133. How Russia Made Trump: Romanian Hackers, WikiLeaks, and Hillary’s Emails (Ep 3)

The Rest Is Classified

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🗓️ 3 March 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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The Russians have hacked into the Democrats' servers and WikiLeaks are threatening to expose Hillary Clinton's emails. Is this the moment that triggers the downfall of the 2016 Clinton campaign? Listen as David and Gordon explore how Julian Assange and his WikiLeaks team helped the Russian GRU and SVR expose the secrets of the Clinton campaign. ------------------- Sign-up for our free newsletter where producer Becki takes you behind the scenes of the show: https://mailchi.mp/goalhanger.com/tric-free-newsletter-sign-up ------------------- Join the Declassified Club to go deeper into the world of espionage with exclusive Q&As, interviews with top intelligence insiders, regular livestreams, ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, and weekly deep dives into original spy stories. Members also get curated reading lists, special book discounts, prize draws, and access to our private chat community. Just go to ⁠⁠therestisclassified.com⁠ or join on Apple Podcasts. ------------------- Get a 10% discount on business PCs, printers and accessories using the code TRIC10. Visit https://HP.com/CLASSIFIED for more information. T&C's apply. ------------------- EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ ⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/restisclassified⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee ------------------- Email: therestisclassified@goalhanger.com Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@restisclassified Video Editor: Joe Pettit Social Producer: Emma Jackson Assistant Producer: Alfie Rowe Producer: Becki Hills Head of History: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Join the declassified club at the rest is classified.com. The Russians have hacked into the Democrat servers and WikiLeaks are threatening to expose Hillary Clinton's emails.

0:32.9

So is this the moment that triggers the downfall of the 2016 Clinton campaign.

0:38.3

Well, welcome to the rest is classified. I'm Gordon Carrera. And I'm David McCloskey.

0:42.3

And we are deep in looking at the Russian active measures campaign to influence the US

0:48.5

presidential election of 2016. We've looked at what active measures are, this tradition of Soviet and Russian

0:56.7

espionage to not just steal secrets, but actually influence events, often by leaking or putting

1:06.6

out information. And we've looked at how that's moved into the modern world with the arrival

1:12.5

of the internet and this concept of the hack and leak. Last time we looked at the hacking part of it

1:19.7

as those sneaky Russian GRU hackers with their pop-tarts got into the DNC and the Clinton campaign through 2016.

1:30.7

But now it's time to look at the leak.

1:37.7

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