133. How Russia Made Trump: Romanian Hackers, WikiLeaks, and Hillary’s Emails (Ep 3)
The Rest Is Classified
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4.4 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 3 March 2026
⏱️ 42 minutes
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| 0:13.1 | Join the declassified club at the rest is classified.com. The Russians have hacked into the Democrat servers and WikiLeaks are threatening to expose Hillary Clinton's emails. |
| 0:32.9 | So is this the moment that triggers the downfall of the 2016 Clinton campaign. |
| 0:38.3 | Well, welcome to the rest is classified. I'm Gordon Carrera. And I'm David McCloskey. |
| 0:42.3 | And we are deep in looking at the Russian active measures campaign to influence the US |
| 0:48.5 | presidential election of 2016. We've looked at what active measures are, this tradition of Soviet and Russian |
| 0:56.7 | espionage to not just steal secrets, but actually influence events, often by leaking or putting |
| 1:06.6 | out information. And we've looked at how that's moved into the modern world with the arrival |
| 1:12.5 | of the internet and this concept of the hack and leak. Last time we looked at the hacking part of it |
| 1:19.7 | as those sneaky Russian GRU hackers with their pop-tarts got into the DNC and the Clinton campaign through 2016. |
| 1:30.7 | But now it's time to look at the leak. |
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