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We know how to grow food well.

You know, there are Afro-Indigenous and Turtle Island indigenous practices that make the land

better every year and provide really high yields of healthy food.

And so it's not a dichotomy between getting what we need and providing space for the

Earth to get what she needs.

How has colonialism impacted soil health around the world, and consequently the welfare of the people who live on these lands? How has the oppression of black and indigenous people of color in the United States affected affected farmland ownership, and continued institutionalized

injustice. That's just the tip of the iceberg of what you'll hear today. Green Dreamer is supported by

our listener of patrons. To join our Green Dreamer network and support the show, you can head to

greendreamer.com slash support. And thank you so much if you're already a patron. For now to our conversation with Leah

Peniman, an educator, farmer, the author of Farming While Black and Food Justice activists who

currently serves as founding co-executive director of Seoul Fire Farm in Grafton, New York,

a people-of-color-led project that works to dismantle racism in our food system.

Multiple of our past guests have actually named Leah as somebody who inspires them that we

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