One, two, three.

Come, come, you saints, no toil nor labor fear.

But with joy, when you're with.

Hello, everyone, and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast.

I'm your host, John DeLin.

It is May 11, 2020.

And today we have someone on Mormon Stories podcast that goes way back to my childhood, believe it or not.

And someone that I have been interested and curious about interviewing for a very long time.

His name is Ed Decker.

He's infamous, famous, notorious.

Lots of different words he could probably provide us with better ones.

Because for a long, long time in many circles, I guess, Ed's been viewed as, I don't know, the world's biggest anti-Mormon.

And I use that term anti-Mormon with quotes because a lot of people misuse that term and a lot of people dislike that term.

And so I'm going to use it with quotes.

But the way that I first learned about Ed, I was growing up as a teenager in a small Baptist town in Texas called Katie, Katie, Texas.

I was, you know, as the early 80s.

And I was probably a freshman in high school, probably in 84.

And this is just my memory.

And all of a sudden, my, my friends started coming up to me asking me all these weird questions about the Mormon Temple ceremony, which I had never been through at the point at that point.

I drove by Katie Baptist Church in Katie, Texas in the early, to mid 80s.

I saw sort of one of those billboard things that said, you know, you know, Mormons and other cults, you know, come by and watch the God makers.

And it was the first time I was introduced to this movie that was created by Ed in the early 80s called the God makers.

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