1331: Leaving Mormonism to Join Teal Swan’s Cult - Jared Dobson Pt. 4
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
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🗓️ 1 July 2020
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
When someone loses their faith in Mormonism, there are several paths often followed. One is to become agnostic or atheist, and never to rejoin a religion again. One is to re-join a Christian church. One is to follow a more fundamentalist Mormon path (e.g. Denver Snuffer, Preppers, Julie Rowe). And one is to become susceptible to new age beliefs and other gurus or cult leaders. Today we will be talking about the last option.
Teal Swan (born Mary Teal Bosworth) is described on her web site as an American spiritual teacher, author, and social media personality. She was raised in Logan, UT, and as a teenager was connected to controversial Mormon therapist Barbara Snow, who was at the center of the Satanic Ritual Abuse panic in the 1990s and 2000s. After a very turbulent childhood, which involved self harm and suicidality, Teal pursued modeling for a time, and eventually began pursuing the path of becoming a spiritual guide.
Teal's teachings on how to manage mental health issues have often been described as unconventional and she has received criticism for how she attracts fans, with some critics nicknaming her "The Suicide Catalyst". At present she has 700,000 followers and has been covered by the BBC, and in several documentaries, including a recent documentary on Netflix.
Her history of work is highly controversial because it incorporates various super controversial and problematic ideologies and practices such as:
- The cultivation of repressed/recovered (false) memories.
- Claims of Satanic ritual abuse.
- Energy healing.
- Clairvoyance.
- Numerology.
- The Law of Attraction.
- A belief in a "Third Eye."
- The usage of crystals to "raise your vibration or frequency."
- A belief in multiple lives.
- A belief that she is an alien from another planet.
- A belief in spiritual projections/possessions.
- When dealing with suicidal clients, referring to suicide as "pushing the reset button" for a future life.
- Communal living.
Jared Dobson was raised LDS, served an LDS mission, got married and divorced, became suicidal, and started searching for answers in New Age Spirituality. He came across Teal Swan, and became a follower in her movement (a "Tealer") for 2 years. He ended up moving in with Teal and became a part of her communal family in Park City, Utah. They were romantically involved for 5-6 months, were set to have a child together, and as the relationship began to fray, Jared was kicked out of the commune and checked himself into a psychiatric ward (UNI at the University of Utah).
He has been recovering ever since.
This is Jared's story of his experiences with Teal Swan. This story also has important connections to other cult-like phenomena occurring in recent times, including the Lori Vallow/Chad Daybell/Julie Rowe/Prepper phenomena. It also is an insider's view into the emergence of a modern cult.
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| 0:00.0 | One, two, three. |
| 0:03.0 | Come, come, you saints, no toil nor labor fear. |
| 0:28.0 | But with joy, when you're way. |
| 0:34.0 | So, so you go to uni at the University of Utah. |
| 0:39.0 | So I submit you commit yourself. |
| 0:41.0 | Yeah, and so just a little insight. I'm still messaging till. |
| 0:44.0 | So she's still messaging me and still like it's definitely like that push and pull thing where it's like she misses me, |
| 0:50.0 | she wants me. I'm bad for her. I remind her of rebusers like I'm a bad person. I trigger her. |
| 0:55.0 | And oh, and the other thing she would like have multiple personalities. |
| 1:00.0 | And I'm not sure if it's an act or a real thing. |
| 1:02.0 | But it would definitely never happen around other people. |
| 1:06.0 | She'd never have a seizure around guests. She would never have a seizure or you know multiple personals around guests. |
| 1:12.0 | It was only in public. I mean, something that should have totally triggered and trauma to her like a glass broke. |
| 1:17.0 | She would just be on the floor. |
| 1:19.0 | But like no one, maybe, maybe Blake and Mark have seen. I've never seen her actually fall over and sees. |
| 1:25.0 | I've only heard like a thump and then look and then somehow she's there. |
| 1:29.0 | But I always felt her head and she never had any bumps that I could feel. But maybe she did. |
| 1:33.0 | I don't know. I don't know. |
| 1:35.0 | So the idea what I'm here you say is that maybe she used this. |
| 1:38.0 | She fainted multiple personality disorder to manipulate her close followers. |
| 1:42.0 | Yes. |
| 1:43.0 | Which we would fall in line with the borderline personality diagnosis. |
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