133. Missing Person Ashley Loring HeavyRunner – Part 3
The Consult: Real FBI Profilers
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🗓️ 22 April 2026
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In Part 3 of our series on the disappearance of Ashley Loring HeavyRunner, we conclude our analysis of Sam McDonald’s account. From there, we shift our focus to Ashley’s victimology, looking at her lifestyle, relationships, and behavioral patterns to better understand her risk level and the circumstances surrounding her disappearance. Part 3 of 4.
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| 0:00.0 | In the consult, we discuss cases involving violence, sexual violence, abduction, and murder. |
| 0:08.9 | Sometimes the cases we discuss involve children. |
| 0:12.9 | Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to the consult. |
| 0:31.9 | I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler, and I'm joined by my colleagues. |
| 0:37.7 | Angela Serser. Susan Costler, Drew, and Bob Drew. |
| 0:41.9 | Angela, Susan, and Bob are also retired FBI profilers, and we work together in the FBI's |
| 0:47.8 | behavioral analysis unit. Before we get started, I want to thank our Patreon members who support |
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| 1:32.2 | Today is part three of our analysis of the disappearance of Ashley Loring Heavy Runner, |
| 1:38.0 | a 20-year-old woman from the Blackfeet Nation in Montana. |
| 1:43.0 | She vanished on or about June 5th or 6th of 2017, and her case has become one of the most widely recognized examples highlighting the crisis of missing and murdered indigenous women. |
| 1:58.0 | Ashley's sister Kimberly has been instrumental in bringing sustained public attention to this |
| 2:04.3 | issue. And joining us again is former New York Times reporter and host of the podcast Silver |
| 2:12.2 | Lining's Handbook, Jason Blair. Welcome back, Jason. Thanks, Julia. Glad to be back. I felt like the discussion has been |
| 2:21.7 | really deep and insightful and, you know, meaningful for me to hear your perspectives. And I'm |
| 2:28.1 | looking forward to continuing the conversation. Yeah. And just really quickly about your |
| 2:33.4 | podcast. And we talked a little bit about it in the first part of this series |
| 2:38.5 | and how you like to have conversations with interesting people. |
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