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Mormon Stories Podcast

1320: The Killing of George Floyd, the Protests, and Russell M. Nelson’s Reaction Pt. 2

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.55.7K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2020

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Yesterday afternoon I sat down with eight super-thoughtful Post-Mormons of color to discuss the unlawful killing of people of color by law enforcement officers and white citizens in the United States of America.

While these killings happen on a monthly basis in the United States, and have been occurring for centuries -- three of the 2020 killings that seem to be invoking particularly strong reactions are those of:

- George Floyd (46) - Killed in May in Minneapolis by police officer Derek Chauvin, while fellow officers watched.

- Ahmaud Arbery (25) - Killed in South Georgia by Travis McMichael, while his father watched.

- Breonna Taylor - Killed in March in Louisville by narcotics detectives after they knocked down her apartment door

We are aware the killings of George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery only because they were recorded by smart phones. As summarized by actor Will Smith, “Racism isn’t getting worse. It’s getting filmed.”

These killings have led to numerous public protests throughout the United States, including this past weekend in Salt Lake City. In some instances, it has been reported that white supremacists have infiltrated some of the protests to stoke violence and disorder.

We also discussed LDS Church president Russell M. Nelson’s recent statement in reaction to the killing of George Floyd, and the corresponding protests surrounding public awareness of Floyd’s death.

Our panelists included the following:

Cecile Shellman

Spencer Nugent

Darron Smith

Jason Ball

Kimilyn Poulson

Mark Nugent

Solange Renfroe

Victoria Denise

Transcript

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One, two, three.

0:03.0

Come, come, you saints, no toil nor labor fear.

0:28.0

But with joy, when you're with...

0:34.0

Well, I've loved everyone's contribution so far.

0:40.0

If it's okay, I want to go ahead and jump to the statement by Russell and Nelson

0:47.0

and get everyone's reaction to it.

0:50.0

Yesterday, I was surprised to see that the LDS prophet, Russell and Nelson,

0:56.0

gave a statement in response to the situation.

0:59.0

I don't know that in the past hundred, 200 years of Mormonism

1:04.0

that the Mormon prophet felt compelled to make statements when important racial news events were occurring.

1:14.0

So on the one hand, I thought, well, that's interesting, possibly positive.

1:19.0

One of my believing family members reached out to me and said, oh, this is so amazing.

1:24.0

The prophet made a statement.

1:26.0

John, you need to make sure and give the prophet lots of credit for making a statement.

1:30.0

I thought, okay.

1:32.0

And then I decided not to write about it and not to even really pay a lot of attention to it.

1:39.0

I just wanted to hear what you guys thought.

1:42.0

I wanted to hear what people of color felt.

1:44.0

So I haven't even really thought about it or done 11 analysis.

1:47.0

But what I'm going to do right now is read it.

1:50.0

And I'm going to invite you guys to pause me at any point.

1:56.0

And just say, hey, I want to say something about that.

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