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The Grenfell Tower Inquiry Podcast

132 The Inquiry’s Phase 1 Recommendations: A Year On

The Grenfell Tower Inquiry Podcast

BBC

News

4.8627 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2020

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In October 2019 the Inquiry published its Phase 1 report, and as part of that, the chair of the Inquiry Sir Martin Moore-Bick, made 46 recommendations. They were directed at the government, the London Fire Brigade, fire and rescue and emergency services around the country, as well as landlords and managers of high rise residential buildings.

To help us understand what progress has been made implementing the recommendations over the last 12 months we spoke with two experts in the industry; approved inspector Geoff Wilkinson and fire safety consultant Phil Murphy.

One recommendation in particular, Personal Emergency Evacuation Plans for vulnerable residents living in high rise buildings, looks unlikely to be implemented in full. Shahrokh Aghlani explains his family’s legal case to try and ensure this recommendation is applied in full.

Presenter: Kate Lamble Producer: May Cameron

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.8

Hello and welcome to the Grenfell Tower Inquiry podcast. I'm Kate Lamble.

0:09.8

One year ago, the inquiry published its Phase 1 report. Back then, based on the evidence

0:15.2

already heard, the chair of the inquiry, Sir Martin Morebic, made 46 recommendations. Some were aimed at the government,

0:23.2

some the London Fire Brigade, some more widely fire and rescue and emergency services around the

0:28.5

country, and some targeted the landlords and managers of high-rise residential buildings.

0:34.6

Recommendations made in a public inquiry aren't legally binding.

0:38.8

No one was forced to carry them out.

0:41.1

But at the time, the Prime Minister Boris Johnson responded, saying,

0:44.9

We plan to accept, in principle, all of the recommendations that Sir Martin makes for central government.

0:58.1

We will set out how we plan to do so as quickly as possible. But I can assure the House and all those affected by the Grenfell

1:06.0

tragedy that where action is called for, action will follow.

1:12.0

I give way to the honourable.

1:14.1

They've had 12 months.

1:16.4

So we've been wondering how many of those 46 recommendations have actually been implemented,

1:23.0

which ones don't look like they'll make it onto the statute books, and why?

1:27.3

To help me find out, I'm joined by two people who followed the inquiry closely. Don't look like they'll make it onto the statue books, and why?

1:34.5

To help me find out, I'm joined by two people who followed the inquiry closely and understand how the building industry works.

1:40.7

Jeff Wilkinson is an approved inspector and managing director of Wilkinson Construction Consultants, and Phil Murphy is a fire safety management advisor.

1:47.6

Take us back to October last year,

1:53.1

back when 2020 was this idea of what was going to be a really great year, when the recommendations from phase one of the inquiry came out, what was your initial response? What did you think of them?

2:00.0

Jeff, why don't we start with you?

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