131 The Tenant Management Organisation: Week 2
The Grenfell Tower Inquiry Podcast
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🗓️ 23 October 2020
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
There was a surprising start to the week when it was revealed the TMO's Director of Assets and Regeneration, Peter Maddison, failed to submit evidence to the Inquiry until four days before he was due to be questioned. It also emerged that Claire Williams from the TMO had ‘binned’ notebooks from her time working on the project.
Peter Maddison admitted talking to the main contractor Rydon about saving £800,000 from the project costs, before the formal results of the tender process were announced.
The inquiry heard how Claire Williams asked the main contractor for details of the fire performance of the cladding system several times.
Presenter / Producer: Kate Lamble Producer: Luke Radcliff Researcher: May Cameron
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Grenfell Tower Inquiry podcast with me Kate Lamble. |
| 0:09.8 | This week, the inquiry continued to hear evidence from the tenant management organisation which ran the building |
| 0:14.7 | and we'll go through the evidence in just a second. |
| 0:17.5 | But on Monday morning, there was a surprise. |
| 0:20.2 | As he was preparing to give evidence, |
| 0:22.0 | the TMO's Director of Assets and Regeneration, Peter Madison, mentioned to his lawyers that he'd |
| 0:27.6 | consulted his notebooks from the time of the refurbishment. The problem was, Peter Madison |
| 0:32.5 | had never mentioned that he still had a set of notebooks and diaries at his home, not to his lawyers, not to the inquiry, and not to the police. |
| 0:41.3 | So last Friday, those notebooks were handed over to the inquiry. |
| 0:46.3 | Mr Chairman, Madame Estefan, here they are. |
| 0:51.3 | You can see from this pile that there are in fact eight day books and five diaries |
| 1:00.0 | Peter Madison was meant to give evidence on Tuesday so the inquiries team rushed to read them over the weekend. |
| 1:06.5 | Lead counsel to the inquiry Richard Millett said both Peter Madison and his legal team |
| 1:10.7 | were going to have to give clear and convincing explanations of why these documents were not |
| 1:15.9 | disclosed earlier. |
| 1:17.3 | They plainly contain material of the utmost relevance. Subject to a speedy redaction process |
| 1:23.6 | that will start immediately, they will be disclosed to core participants as soon as possible. |
| 1:29.1 | I am hoping during the day today. |
| 1:31.4 | Peter Madison's evidence was delayed by 48 hours while that was done. |
| 1:35.6 | In the meantime, Claire Williams, a project manager at the TMO, continued her evidence. |
| 1:40.8 | Richard Millett took the opportunity to ask what should have been a very straightforward |
| 1:45.1 | question. Can you confirm for us that you have handed over all your notebooks, diaries and records |
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