I dreamt that you were twisting through seven sons of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hello, everybody.

Welcome back to the Soberful podcast.

This is Veronica Valley.

And this is Chip Summers.

We hope you're doing all right.

Wherever you are in the world, with all the changes and everything that's happening, people are hopefully emerging out of lockdown and getting vaccinated and I don't know, hopefully we're feeling a bit more hopeful now.

Yeah, definitely. I think there's a bit of a ying and a yang. A lot of people getting very hopeful. I've had vaccination, got my second one coming, looking forward to a bit

more freedom, but I also have a little bit of anxiety about the fact that people might go just a tad

crazy after all this time. I mean, especially, we've had a much more serious lockdown over here.

You have. It's very variable in the States. And I think over here, there's going to be a bit of a crazy two or three weeks when people just go a bit mad. I mean, I feel like it. I want to run around and hug everyone and dance and party. Yeah. And you're not even drunk. Yeah. So I think it'll be difficult, but I think it's going to be really good to have people. It's going to be exciting. But my God, the mental damage on people has been immense. I don't think we're going to start seeing the kind of impact of that for a while, but I think they're going to be a lot of people who've been really quite badly affected by this. Yeah. So looking forward to being able to get back to normal, but I think there's going to be

a bit of wreckage afterwards, but let's hope not too much.

So today we're going to be, this is another suggested episode, we're going to be talking

about romantic relationships in early sobriety, as this is a pretty big issue.

Romantic relationships are a big issue for everybody, but they are

particularly an issue for people who are overcoming some kind of alcohol or substance abuse problem,

as we will go into. So that's the subject that we're going to be talking about. Before we get

started, we did an episode a week or two ago on staying sober as we come out of lockdown. We have

quite a few sober pandemic babies who have just sort of been able to hunker down and stay sober.

Check that episode out because we give you lots of suggestions and advice in that. We always do a

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