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Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

#1315: Evasion

Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

Wizards of the Coast

Duels Of The Planeswalkers, Magic The Gathering, Games, Mark Rosewater, Ccg, Leisure, Mtg, Game Design

4.7801 Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In this podcast, I talk about a core element of every design: making sure your creatures can get through and help the game end.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm pulling my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time to have the drive to work.

0:06.8

Okay, guys, today we are talking evasion. So what is evasion? Why is it important?

0:14.4

So invasion is the term that R&D uses to talk about anything that helps you get through to what we call board stall to get to

0:24.4

your opponent. So one of the inherent things, so magic is built pretty cool. You know, there's a

0:30.0

mana system that over time things get bigger and bigger, and so the game evolves. But one of the

0:36.0

inherent problems as the game evolves, as the board, the battlefield evolves,

0:40.7

is you start what we call it sort of board lock.

0:46.0

You start like, at some point, I have enough creatures and you have enough creatures,

0:49.5

that it starts becoming hard for one of us to attack each other.

0:53.3

And the reason is one of the sort of core things of magic is, it just turns out it's a little

0:59.3

easier to be defensive than offensive.

1:02.8

That, you know, because the opponent blocking gets to choose how they block, there's a,

1:07.8

you know, there's a lot of advantages to blocking.

1:10.6

And that one of the things that's really challenging is in order to attack, you have to There's a lot of advantages to blocking.

1:14.4

And that one of the things that's really challenging is in order to attack,

1:16.4

you have to have a worthwhile attack.

1:22.7

And so there are, you know, sometimes my attack is good because my things are bigger than your things.

1:26.4

And even if you block my things, my big things will destroy your small things.

1:31.3

There are reasons that even with, you know, sort of a board stall,

1:34.0

that you can attack under certain circumstances.

1:37.5

But in general, there often comes a point where strategically,

1:42.1

it just doesn't make a lot of sense to attack into your opponent's forces.

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