1314: A Cautionary Tale of Repressed Memory Therapy Pt. 1
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
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🗓️ 20 May 2020
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Today on Mormon Stories Podcast we continue our series on the history of Repressed Memory Therapy and claims of Satanic Ritual Abuse within Utah Mormonism.
Today’s interview is with “Kim,” who tells her experiences of being subjected to techniques of hypnosis and repressed/recovered memory in Provo/Orem Utah between 1988 and 1992. In the interview Kim discusses her traumatic childhood - which led to her conversion to Mormonism, and left her vulnerable to Repressed/Recovered Memory techniques in adulthood while she was attempting to recover from childhood PTSD.
While living in Provo/Orem, UT and struggling in her early marriage, Kim was referred to Mormon therapists Rex Kocherhans and Ruth Kilpack - both of whom were practitioners of Repressed/Recovered Memory therapy. Interestingly, Ruth Killpack was referred to Kim by her LDS bishop, and was also a therapist to Martha Beck, who controversially claimed that her late father, Mormon scholar and apologist Hugh Nibley, sexually abused her. Martha Beck has acknowledged that her memories of abuse were recovered through these same Repressed/Recovered Memory techniques.
As Ruth engaged in therapy with Mormon therapists Rex Kocherhans and Ruth Kilpack, Ruth was pressured in therapy using hypnosis to “remember” being sexually abused during her childhood, which resulted in her accusing several family members of sexual abuse - even though she was never convinced that the “memories” produced under hypnosis were real. As these accusations left Kim increasingly paranoid, ostracized from her family, and ultimately re-traumatized - and as Kim grew increasingly uncomfortable with her therapists’ lack of appropriate boundaries and unethical therapeutic ethics -- Kim determined that her “memories” of family abuse were in fact implanted or manipulated by her therapists.
“Kim” was later directly interviewed by Mormon General Authority Glenn Pace as a part of his investigation into Satanic Ritual within Mormonism, and eventually Kim spoke out as an advocate against “”Repressed or Recovered Memory” Techniques in newspapers, and on TV.
This is Kim’s story.
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| 0:00.0 | One, two, three. |
| 0:03.0 | Come, come, you saints, no toil nor labor fear. |
| 0:28.0 | But with joy, when you're with. |
| 0:34.0 | Hello, everyone, and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories Podcast. |
| 0:38.0 | I'm your host, John DeLin. It is August 2nd, 2019. |
| 0:43.0 | And we are so excited to be live streaming today on Mormon Stories Podcast, |
| 0:49.0 | and to be able to continue our discussion of a very important and serious topic, |
| 0:56.0 | which is the history of reports of satanic ritual abuse within Mormonism. |
| 1:05.0 | And for those of you who are joining us for the first time on this topic, |
| 1:11.0 | it's really important that you understand that we've already recorded two really important episodes. |
| 1:17.0 | The first is a 45-minute introduction to the topic of satanic ritual abuse or reports of that. |
| 1:25.0 | Within Mormonism, it's really important that you listen to that, because this is a really fraught topic, |
| 1:31.0 | where there's a lot of passion on both sides. |
| 1:34.0 | People who believe that there was a history of satanic ritual abuse in the 80s and 90s, |
| 1:40.0 | and that it continues to today, and people who claim to be victims of that. |
| 1:44.0 | And then there's another side of people that feel like it's not true, that it's false, |
| 1:50.0 | that it is actually a product of inappropriate therapeutic techniques, such as hypnosis, |
| 1:59.0 | and recovered memory, leading to something called false memory syndrome. |
| 2:04.0 | And part of the problem with this, number one, is in the Harvey Weinstein Me Too movement, |
| 2:09.0 | and just in developed society, we are all learning that it's really important to believe people, |
| 2:16.0 | or at least start by believing victims of abuse, because we know that so often, |
| 2:22.0 | a victim's abuse goes unreported, or if it goes reported, |
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