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1302: The Real Catch Me If You Can - The Promissory Note

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 April 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Virginia Morris, a retired real estate agent from Houston, Texas, doesn't want me to use her real name. She claims Frank Abagnale scammed her out of $20,000 through a bogus investment scheme. Virginia spent years suing Abagnale, trying to recover her money. However, she was unsuccessful. Abagnale ignored the court summons and failed to appear in court. So, Virginia did what anyone who lost more than $20,000 would do. She showed up at one of Frank Abagnale's speaking events and confronted him. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Creative battle.

0:30.0

Hey guys, it's me Javier. The episode that I'm about to play you, well, I was not going to drop it

0:35.8

here on the main feed. It was really just a bonus episode for my pretend plus subscribers on

0:41.3

Apple Podcasts and for my Patreon supporters. But I thought about this all weekend long.

0:47.2

I have to play this episode. The world needs to hear Virginia's story because she is the reason

0:54.7

why I've done this series for as long as I have. You know, I get a lot of flak on YouTube,

1:01.6

social media. Every time I mention Frank Abigail, they say, hey, why don't you leave the old man alone

1:09.3

or the jokes on us? He fooled us. This is the long con. He's brilliant. Or I get this.

1:17.2

You know, Javier, it's just a movie, right? And I get it. I get all that. But the people who are

1:25.2

saying that haven't heard Virginia's story, she is the reason why this is so important.

1:32.8

Frank Abigail would go around in his early years doing speeches kind of like he does today,

1:39.6

but instead of, you know, selling books or movies or whatever, he would contact some of the people

1:46.8

attending these conferences and try to get them involved in some really risky investments.

1:54.4

Investments that I have court records that he and his wife never repaid. This is a great story.

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I don't want to spoil it for you, so let's just play it.

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