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PRETEND

1301: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 9 (update)

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Frank is Back! This update episode is loaded with new allegations and never-before-told capers. Like the time Frank Abagnale: Impersonated a cop with a paper badge and a toy gun. Posed as a pilot to work at a preschool Took a group of teachers on an "all-expense paid" trip to Puerto Rico Ababnale's true life story is featured in the New York Post. Frank Abagnale is getting national attention. Just this month, the New York Post published an article citing an 87-page file of old newspaper clippings, court documents, and letters — from airlines, university officials, government sources, and others. Here's a link to the article written by Abby Ellin. ACFE - Emerging Trends in Fraud Investigation and Prevention Conference | event link Plus, there's a huge announcement at the end. Abagnale was featured as the keynote speaker at an upcoming fraud ACFE conference in Ohio. The ACFE organizers contacted me and asked if I could speak after Abagnale. So, of course, I said yes! Stick around till the end of the episode to get an update on the event. Abagnale featured in STR8DADVIBES We end the episode with a song inspired by my 'Real Catch Me If You Can' Series. STR8 DAD VIBES by KENDONTCRY Follow Pretend on social media: Twitter TikTok YouTube PRETEND is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. It has been featured in the New York Times, the BBC, & Netflix. To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to [email protected] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend and https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Creative Babel

0:30.0

Well, hello there. It's me, Javier. As some of you know, I did an eight episode deep-dive

0:39.4

series on Frank Abigail, the con man behind the movie and a book catch me if you can. And

0:45.5

if you listen to the series, you know he lied about his entire life story. Not only was

0:50.8

he not a brilliant con artist, he was actually a petty thief ripping off working people just

0:55.8

like you and me. Well, do I have an update episode for you? By the way, if you're confused by

1:03.0

all this and haven't listened to the series, I suggest you start with episode one of season 11.

1:09.1

This episode will make a whole lot more sense. In 2020, Alan Logan published the greatest

1:16.5

hoax on earth a book that shattered the Frank Abigail mythology. Then I took a swing and confronted

1:23.0

Frank Abigail about his false narratives in Las Vegas. But none of this, none of this slowed

1:28.9

Frank Abigail down. Since we last aired the real catch me if you can't series, Frank Abigail

1:35.1

has received yet another award for, I don't know, and he's continued to pose as an FBI employee

1:43.5

and a former con man. One thing has changed for sure and that's the fact that Frank Abigail no

1:49.5

longer talks about his past. Maybe it's because he knows that the truth is out there. I mean,

1:55.4

we have a pretty good idea of what Frank Abigail was really up to from the age of 18 to 21.

2:02.5

I mean, I know more about this guy's early life than I know about my own.

2:07.1

With the help of Alan Logan, we've been able to assemble a month-by-month timeline of his

2:12.2

whereabouts, but you know what, there are still holes in that timeline that are mystery to us.

2:19.4

But guess what? We just found some answers to some of those dark periods in the timeline,

2:25.1

and let's just say it's not looking good for Frank. We're going to start the episode out a little slow

2:32.5

and then we're going to work our way into the really slatious stuff towards the middle of the

2:37.0

episode, subrace yourself. I'm Javier Leva, and this is Pretend. Stories about real people

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