We've seen people deconstruct.

Oh yeah, many people out of this church.

It is very difficult for people to separate

what is being done in Jesus' name

from who he actually is.

Welcome to the Alisa Childers Podcast.

So excited to have you back this time

for the continuation of a discussion

that we had last time with TC Cannon, my good friend.

We talked about her story of walking through

spiritual abuse and how we processed that experience together

as lovers of the church and as lovers of Jesus

just are thinking as that went

as we walked through that together.

So if you haven't watched that episode,

I strongly recommend you go back and listen to that first

because it's gonna give you some context

coming into today's podcast

where we're gonna talk about more practical elements

of spiritual abuse.

How is that manifesting itself in our churches?

What can we do about it?

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