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🗓️ 20 May 2025
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Daniel and Jack are joined by special guest, South African anti-disinformation advocate, Bianca van Wyk, to discuss the issue of 'South African farm murders', the reality vs the right-wing narrative, some of the bad actors pushing the fake version of the story, and the links to the 'white genocide' conspiracy theory. Bianca helps us get the whole thing into proper context, especially re South Africa's history and current politics. Also discussed: the recent fast-tracking of refugee status for white South Africans by the Trump administration, the US Right's embrace of the South African far-right's propaganda, the 'Kill the Boer!' chant and what it really means, Elon Musk, and the recent reprogramming of X's AI chatbot Grok.
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X @biancavanwyk16
TikTok @BiancaSays3
YouTube @WhiteWhineTalks
Sour Grapes — The Toxic Vintage of White Whine by Bianca https://iol.co.za/news/politics/2024-05-16-bianca-van-wyk-sour-grapes-the-toxic-vintage-of-white-whine/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/09/us-grants-asylum-to-54-white-afrikaner-south-africans
https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-whites-south-africa-us-fdef8e9d4d2186227f75b817d8e1d7eb
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/14/elon-musk-grok-white-genocide
https://www.404media.co/why-did-grok-start-talking-about-white-genocide/
https://newrepublic.com/article/195383/trump-south-africans-takes-immigration
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/12/us/politics/white-south-africans-refugees.html
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https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/dangerous-myth-white-genocide-south-africa/
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0:00.0 | This is I Don't Speak German. |
0:05.5 | Here we talk about the far right, their fellow travellers, and what they say to each other |
0:10.5 | when they think we're not listening. |
0:15.0 | The show is hosted by Daniel Harper and me, Jack Graham. We're both he, him. Be aware, we cover difficult, sometimes |
0:22.6 | nasty subject matter, so content warnings always apply. And welcome back to another episode of I |
0:28.7 | Don't Speak German. And this episode is, again, we're being kind of topical at the moment. We had one |
0:34.9 | covering the recent conclave over at the Vatican. And now South Africa's kind of topical at the moment. We had one covering the recent conclave over the Vatican. And now |
0:39.9 | South Africa's kind of in the news a little bit because we've had the thing in America where |
0:44.7 | Trump has fast-tracked the refugee status for several quote-unquote refugees from South Africa. |
0:52.3 | We are unfortunately topical once again. |
0:54.5 | We try not to be topical on this podcast. |
0:56.6 | That's the way you gain listeners. |
0:58.1 | No, we try to keep it as low as well as well. |
1:00.2 | Oh yeah, we wouldn't want that. |
1:02.1 | So we're going to be talking in this episode a little bit about the, for want of a, |
1:06.2 | and it's a horrible way of putting it, but for one of a better term, the South African farm murders phenomenon |
1:11.8 | and the conspiracy theory, I should say, and the attendant, because it's really, it's really |
1:17.9 | just a part of the white genocide conspiracy theory, I think, we would agree. And I'm here with |
1:23.5 | Daniel and we're also very happy and glad to be joined by a special guest for this episode, |
1:29.0 | Bianca von Veig. |
1:30.6 | Okay, so I'm Bianca von Veig and from South Africa. |
1:34.4 | One of the things that I do is I do online advocacy around specifically addressing disinformation |
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