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🗓️ 9 May 2025
⏱️ 85 minutes
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In this immediately out-of-date episode, Daniel and Jack discuss the 2024 movie Conclave in light of the (at the time of recording) underway 2025 Conclave in the Vatican to choose a new Pope. Both your hosts talk a little about their own religious backgrounds, review the film, and then get onto the politics of the Catholic Church, particularly the integration of right-wing US bishops with American reactionaries.
Episode Notes:
https://publicseminar.org/2024/08/the-catholic-new-right-and-project-2025/
https://www.politico.eu/article/vaticans-church-catholic-pope-francis-hard-right/
https://sojo.net/magazine/march-2019/rise-catholic-right
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/28/maga-catholics-vatican-pope-conclave
https://youtu.be/Mb3zYyhrUWg?si=d1UG7bpGi16WAaRo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKW-0fIDHdw&t=220s
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0:00.0 | I thought we had your support. |
0:03.3 | If we liberals are not united, to Desco will become Pope. |
0:07.5 | You have no idea how bad it became, Thomas. |
0:09.6 | The way he in his circle attacked the Holy Father towards the end. |
0:12.5 | The smears, the leaks to the press. |
0:14.7 | It was savage. |
0:16.4 | He fought him every single day of his pontificate. |
0:20.3 | And now that he's dead, he wants to destroy his life's work. |
0:24.6 | If Tedesco becomes Pope, he will undo 60 years of progress. |
0:30.6 | You talk as if you're the only alternative, but Adaiami has the win behind him. |
0:34.6 | Adaiami. |
0:35.6 | Adaiami, the man who believes that homosexuals should be sent to prison in this world and hell in the next. |
0:41.6 | Ademi's not the answer to anything, and you know it. |
0:45.1 | If you want to defeat to Desco. |
0:47.4 | This is a conclave, Aldo. |
0:49.0 | It's not a war. |
0:49.7 | It is a war. |
0:51.9 | And you have to commit to a side. |
0:55.0 | Hello everybody, Jack from the future, popping in to acknowledge the fact that this episode |
1:01.0 | that Daniel and I recorded about the movie Conclave and about the upcoming election of the |
1:06.0 | new Pope, we recorded it on the first day of the conclave before the choice had been made. It's now a bit out of date. |
1:12.1 | But even so, I think it holds up. |
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