Essentialist, thank you for listening to the Essentialism Podcast. It's such a pleasure to be able to talk with you each week to come directly to you.

And if you find this useful, if you're finding the conversation valuable, please include others so that we can continue to expand this community that's making different choices to achieve a different kind of life

altogether and speaking to that this episode itself is a little different. A few weeks ago I had Emily Stewart, a nurse from the NHS who's

been working on some of the high-risk patients in the COVID pandemic. And in that

episode I said if you like this if you found this interesting and you think

that there are others that ought to have an

essential intervention please reach out to me just email me go to essentialism

dot com and email me who you think should be on the show and why and in future episodes

will consider just such an option. That's exactly what happened with my next

guest and it's Danielle LeGron from Toronto Canada and this conversation captures

attention, a particular tension, between the internal voice of conscience, of clarity that says

this is the right path, and other voices, even well intended voices in our own family, our

friends and beyond, who may want great things for us as well, but may still pull us off the path that we really are supposed to be on.

That's the tension at the heart of this conversation, but what I think you'll find is a resonance

with yourself in your own journey to grapple between those different voices.

Please enjoy.

Daniel.

Hello.

Where am I catching you today, Daniel?

I am hiding in my 10-year-old daughter's room for privacy.

And tell me about you, Denyo.

Okay, so my husband is currently teaching a class live in our living room, which is why I'm hiding in here.

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