Hello, I'm Jennifer Rubin, and this is Jen Rubin's Green Room.

We talk about a lot of subjects here, but one subject that comes up a lot for my readers and for my viewers

and other medium is journalism itself. There's a lot of frustration out there that journalism

isn't doing what's supposed to be. It isn't serving our democracy well. And if there's

anyone who has written more about this and more intelligent

things about it, I don't know than Jay Rosen. He is a professor at NYU. He is a active presence

on social media and he provides great insight into the media, why it's not doing what it should, and

what it can do better.

So without further ado, Jay, welcome to the show.

Thank you so much for inviting me, Jennifer.

It's my pleasure.

We've communicated for years back and forth, but it's nice to have you all to myself for a while in these crazy news days. So the news business, my sense is, hasn't changed. And that's sort of the problem. They're kind of stuck in a certain mode that maybe was once appropriate and no longer is.

What's your sense about the media's recognition of the times that we were in and the democracy peril that we now face?

Yeah, it's a good question.

Over the years, I've developed a view on this that starts with what American historians

sometimes call the American consensus, which was after World War II, the two parties agreed on a lot of things.

They had their differences as well, but there was a broad agreement on the most important things,

fighting the Cold War, for example, free market capitalism,

the need for some regulation within free market capitalism, the importance of education,

the importance of strong democracy at home and around the world.

Those were things that were basic to American politics.

And they allowed journalists to view the two parties as roughly the same in the way they operated and different in their

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